{"id":27862,"date":"2014-09-17T09:29:40","date_gmt":"2014-09-17T13:29:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/?p=27862"},"modified":"2014-09-17T09:55:38","modified_gmt":"2014-09-17T13:55:38","slug":"heres-how-to-buy-shares-in-alibaba","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/?p=27862","title":{"rendered":"Here&#8217;s how to buy shares in Alibaba."},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Alibaba?<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s hot. Everyone wants in.<br \/>\nThere is one reason: Comparable companies &#8212; Google and Facebook &#8212; have done spectacularly since going public.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/FACEBOOKsincePUblic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27869\" src=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/FACEBOOKsincePUblic.jpg\" alt=\"FACEBOOKsincePUblic\" width=\"602\" height=\"271\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/FACEBOOKsincePUblic.jpg 602w, https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/FACEBOOKsincePUblic-300x135.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 602px) 100vw, 602px\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/GoogleSincePUblic.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27870\" src=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/GoogleSincePUblic.jpg\" alt=\"GoogleSincePUblic\" width=\"611\" height=\"286\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/GoogleSincePUblic.jpg 611w, https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/GoogleSincePUblic-300x140.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 611px) 100vw, 611px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><em>If you can&#8217;t see all the charts in Apple, tap once on your iPad or iPhone. If you can&#8217;t see in Windows, right click, then click view image. Don&#8217;t get crazy about the big drop in Google. They did a two-for-one split.<br \/>\n<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Buy Alibaba on day one, i.e. Friday? That&#8217;s the BIG question.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Here&#8217;s my recommendation: Buy a little. Then wait to buy more later at a, possibly, lower price.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Both Facebook and Google dropped shortly after their opening. The reason? People and institutions who got their shares at the &#8220;cheap&#8221; IPO price flipped them, meaning they sold them shortly after they went public. They did this because that&#8217;s their business &#8212; they&#8217;re short-term investors.\u00a0 They buy things at the IPO price and sell them shortly thereafter. Most times they make a profit and rely on those profits to pay for their losses on IPOs that won&#8217;t work.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Alibaba&#8217;s IPO may be different. The underwriters are apparently trying real hard to place the shares in &#8220;smart hands.&#8221; They want the shares in the hands of long-term holders and they want this IPO to be a success. Their strategy is to find institutions that want to own say one million shares long-term. They will get given 500,000 shares(or so) on the IPO and are encouraged to buy the additional 500,000 (or so) in the aftermarket &#8212; at presumably higher prices. This will underpin the Alibaba share price and stop the price dropping.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">At one point you could have bought Facebook at $18. It&#8217;s now $76.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Will this &#8220;smart hands&#8221; strategy work? Will shares of Alibaba go steadily up? I don&#8217;t know. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m suggesting that you buy some shares on Friday and wait and watch. I&#8217;d personally be surprised if it didn&#8217;t dip in coming weeks. But my ability to predict is as good as yours &#8212; nil to none. See <em>25 Predictions That Didn&#8217;t Come True.<\/em> Click <a title=\"25 predictions that didn't come true\" href=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/?p=27841\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>here.<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">I&#8217;ve spent oodles of time reading about Alibaba. Read the Red Herring. Click <a title=\"Alibaba's Red Herring -- SEC Form F-1\" href=\"http:\/\/www.sec.gov\/Archives\/edgar\/data\/1577552\/000119312514184994\/d709111df1.htm\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>here.<\/strong><\/a> Read the Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg and the New York Times. They&#8217;ve each got a zillion stories. I&#8217;ve even tried shopping on Alibaba. It&#8217;s impressive. (Go <strong><a title=\"www.Alibaba.com\" href=\"http:\/\/www.alibaba.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">here.<\/a><\/strong>) A BusinessWeek reporter used it to make 280 pairs of brightly colored pants. He was happy with his pants and the process of buying through Alibaba. Read his story <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a title=\"I used Alibaba to make 280 pairs of brightly-colored pants\" href=\"http:\/\/www.businessweek.com\/articles\/2014-09-16\/what-is-alibaba-one-man-s-path-to-custom-made-bright-colored-pants\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>here.<\/strong><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">What I&#8217;ve learned about Alibaba:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: left;\">+ Alibaba is huge.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: left;\">+ Alibaba is sort of a combination eBay\/Amazon (but much bigger than both of them combined). It&#8217;s really a portal to Chinese manufacturers.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: left;\">+ Chinese governance and accounting stinks. Read this piece on fraud in China. Click <a title=\"IN China detecting fraud riskier than doing it\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2014\/08\/29\/business\/in-china-detecting-fraud-riskier-than-doing-it.html?ref=business&amp;_r=2\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>here.<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: left;\">+ There&#8217;s massive insider\/management in-dealing. This may or may not stink.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: left;\">+ No matter how big Friday&#8217;s IPO, Jack Ma will still control the company. You can read about him on Wikipedia. Click <a title=\"Jack Ma on Wikipedia\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Jack_Ma\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>here.<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: left;\">+ Alibaba will create thousands and thousands of new American entrepreneurs &#8212; once they discover how easy (and cheap) it is to buy stuff on Alibaba. You don&#8217;t have to go there to find someone to make your idea. Alibaba does it for you.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">The Wall Street Journal has a piece <em>If You Buy Alibaba, Be Ready for a Rough Ride<\/em>. Please read this piece. Click <a title=\"If you buy Alibaba, be ready for a rough ride\" href=\"http:\/\/blogs.wsj.com\/moneybeat\/2014\/09\/15\/if-you-buy-alibaba-be-ready-for-a-rough-ride\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>here.<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">I also like this piece in the Journal:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: left;\"><strong>In Alibaba IPO, Investors Offer Views of Risk and Opportunity<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>Some See a Potential Windfall, While Others Cite Problems With Governance<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Click <strong><a title=\"In Alibaba IPO, investors offer views of risk and opportunity\" href=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/articles\/in-alibaba-ipo-investors-offer-views-of-risk-and-opportunity-1410899738\" target=\"_blank\">here.<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">The more I write about Alibaba the more excited I become.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Here are three charts that summarize Alibaba&#8217;s business. They&#8217;re from the IPO Red Herring on the SEC web site:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/AlibabaBusinesses.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27880\" src=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/AlibabaBusinesses.jpg\" alt=\"AlibabaBusinesses\" width=\"606\" height=\"838\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/AlibabaBusinesses.jpg 606w, https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/AlibabaBusinesses-216x300.jpg 216w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 606px) 100vw, 606px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/alibabaBusinesses2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27881\" src=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/alibabaBusinesses2.jpg\" alt=\"alibabaBusinesses2\" width=\"640\" height=\"792\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/alibabaBusinesses2.jpg 640w, https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/alibabaBusinesses2-242x300.jpg 242w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/AlibabaBusinesses3.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27882\" src=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/AlibabaBusinesses3.jpg\" alt=\"AlibabaBusinesses3\" width=\"614\" height=\"762\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/AlibabaBusinesses3.jpg 614w, https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/AlibabaBusinesses3-241x300.jpg 241w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 614px) 100vw, 614px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/HarryNewton.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-21218\" src=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/HarryNewton.jpg\" alt=\"HarryNewton\" width=\"200\" height=\"199\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/HarryNewton.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/HarryNewton-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nHarry Newton whose new granddaughter, Sophie, has such a wonderful personality. Here&#8217;s Sophie being, well, Sophie, aged\u00a0 around two weeks. You think we can get her a modeling job?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Sophie1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27847\" src=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Sophie1.jpg\" alt=\"Sophie1\" width=\"250\" height=\"333\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Sophie1.jpg 250w, https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Sophie1-225x300.jpg 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 250px) 100vw, 250px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Sophie2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27848\" src=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Sophie2.jpg\" alt=\"Sophie2\" width=\"250\" height=\"333\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Sophie2.jpg 250w, https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Sophie2-225x300.jpg 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 250px) 100vw, 250px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Sophie4.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27863\" src=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Sophie4.jpg\" alt=\"Sophie4\" width=\"250\" height=\"354\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Sophie4.jpg 250w, https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Sophie4-211x300.jpg 211w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 250px) 100vw, 250px\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Sophie3.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27864\" src=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Sophie3.jpg\" alt=\"Sophie3\" width=\"250\" height=\"355\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Sophie3.jpg 250w, https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Sophie3-211x300.jpg 211w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 250px) 100vw, 250px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">I promise. No more baby pictures for at least a week. I like being a grandfather. I&#8217;m being called Gramps, which is appropriate. She&#8217;s learning the expressions.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Alibaba? It&#8217;s hot. Everyone wants in. There is one reason: Comparable companies &#8212; Google and Facebook &#8212; have done spectacularly since going public. If you can&#8217;t see all the charts in Apple, tap once on your iPad or iPhone. If you can&#8217;t see in Windows, right click, then click view image. Don&#8217;t get crazy about [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-27862","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27862","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=27862"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27862\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=27862"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=27862"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=27862"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}