{"id":34510,"date":"2016-05-05T10:23:06","date_gmt":"2016-05-05T14:23:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/?p=34510"},"modified":"2016-05-05T10:23:06","modified_gmt":"2016-05-05T14:23:06","slug":"rewards-from-a-hard-seat-at-sohn","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/?p=34510","title":{"rendered":"Rewards from a hard seat at SOHN"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Yesterday I sat seven hours on a hard, cramped, narrow seat at Lincoln Center listening to SOHN Conference speakers.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">SOHN is the second New York conference of the year where speakers &#8212; mostly billionaire hedge fund managers &#8212; pronounce their &#8220;best ideas&#8221; to a thousand or so people who paid $1,500 on up to benefit a charity &#8212; curing child cancer in SOHN&#8217;s case, or helping New York&#8217;s poor in the case of Robin Hood Foundation&#8217;s conference (in November).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Yesterday&#8217;s tone was overwhelmingly negative &#8212; right down to one famous, rich hedgie who recommended we sell everything and go 100% to cash.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">That hedge was Stanley Druckenmiller who summed his feelings:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: left;\">+ There is no alternative to equity markets because interest rates are so low today.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: left;\">+ The Fed with its low interest rate policy seems to have no objective, except to stop the S&amp;P falling 6%.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: left;\">+ No new money has flowed into equities.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: left;\">+ Washington&#8217;s reckless printing of money and low interest has caused massive government borrowing, sowing the seeds of the next disaster.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: left;\">+ The corporate sector is stuck with flat growth and we&#8217;re paying 18 times inflated earnings.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: left;\">+ Druckenmiller is negative on China. They do not need more debt or more houses.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: left;\">+ The bull market has exhausted itself.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: left;\">+ This market feels like just before he 2008 crisis.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Recommendation: Go to cash.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">These guys are talented:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Two years ago, PointState Capital\u2019s Zach Schreiber told the SOHN\u00a0conference to\u00a0go short oil. At the time the price of oil was about $100 a barrel. It fell below $30 earlier this year. He allegedly made $1 billion on that trad<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Other speakers highlighted what oil&#8217;s drop had done to many economies &#8212; One speaker highlighted the mess that Saudi Arabia was in. Simply put, its it couldn&#8217;t afford its expenses any longer. Here&#8217;s one chart which summarized it.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/SaudiArabiaexpenses.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-34516\" src=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/SaudiArabiaexpenses.jpg\" alt=\"SaudiArabiaexpenses\" width=\"550\" height=\"363\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/SaudiArabiaexpenses.jpg 550w, https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/SaudiArabiaexpenses-300x197.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">This chart is also persusasive:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/persistentcapitalflight.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-34521\" src=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/persistentcapitalflight.jpg\" alt=\"persistentcapitalflight\" width=\"550\" height=\"369\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/persistentcapitalflight.jpg 550w, https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/persistentcapitalflight-300x201.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Conclusion: Go long the U.S. dollar, short the Saudi riyal.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Several publishers &#8211; from the Wall Street Journal, to Forbes to CNBC covered SOHN in depth. CNBC parked a truck outside:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-34519\" src=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/CNBCSatelliteTruck.jpg\" alt=\"CNBCSatelliteTruck\" width=\"450\" height=\"371\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/CNBCSatelliteTruck.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/CNBCSatelliteTruck-300x247.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">And brought an enormous number of worker-bees to help. There were another ten or so tending the truck and the communications.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/CNBCWorkers.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-34518\" src=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/CNBCWorkers.jpg\" alt=\"CNBCWorkers\" width=\"450\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/CNBCWorkers.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/CNBCWorkers-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">The Wall Street Journal did a long piece:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: left;\"><strong>From Einhorn to Chanos to Gundlach, Live Analysis of the Sohn Conference<\/strong><br \/>\nSome of the biggest names in the hedge-fund world are pitching new investment ideas at the Sohn Investment Conference Wednesday<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">It covered all the speeches and their recommendations. Silly of me to repeat it all. You can read it <a title=\"Wall Street Journal on SOHN 2016\" href=\"http:\/\/blogs.wsj.com\/moneybeat\/2016\/05\/04\/from-einhorn-to-chanos-to-gundlach-live-analysis-of-the-sohn-conference\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>here.<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">My favorite recommendations from yesterday:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: left;\">+ Short OZRK, Bank of the Ozarks. their loans are too highly concentrated in real estate, especially construction loans, the riskiest of them all.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: left;\">+ There&#8217;s a 65% upside in Hyatt.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: left;\">+ Amazon. Two reasons: Amazon Prime and AWS. It&#8217;s the best and most popular cloud in the sky. Amazon enhances it constantly. And drops its AWS prices constantly.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: left;\">+ Short CAT. \u00a0&#8220;CAT should trade for half its price,&#8221; said David Einhorn. CAT is 22 times earnings. GM is only six times. Buy GM.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: left;\">+ Short MTN. They&#8217;re a cell phone provider with interests in all the wrong places, like South Africa and Nigeria. Can you believe a 52.6% youth unemployment in South Africa?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: left;\">+ And from Jeffrey Gundlach of DoubleLine Capital:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px; text-align: left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/GundlachRecommendation1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-34526\" src=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/GundlachRecommendation1.jpg\" alt=\"GundlachRecommendation\" width=\"550\" height=\"188\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/GundlachRecommendation1.jpg 550w, https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/GundlachRecommendation1-300x102.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Clearly, bets have been placed on these recommendations. But most are not too late.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><strong>Trump becomes President.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">That&#8217;s the prevailing bet. Trump as president is frightening to many. But to many his advantage is that he&#8217;s not from today&#8217;s politics. He&#8217;s &#8220;something different.&#8221; The hope is he may actually get things done in Washington. Congress will probably stay in Republican hands.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">One pundit thinks Trump winning the Republican nomination means the Fed won&#8217;t raise rates this year.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">It&#8217;s hard to see the Fed raising rates, given the today&#8217;s weak economy and lack of inflation.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><strong>My favorite old campaign button:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/Reagin80.jpg\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-34511\" src=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/Reagin80.jpg\" alt=\"Reagin80\" width=\"450\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/Reagin80.jpg 450w, https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/Reagin80-300x240.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/span><\/a><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Favorite LBJ targeting Barry Goldwater: &#8220;In your guts, you know he&#8217;s nuts.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Why do people take take such an instant dislike to Ted Cruz? It just takes time.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><strong>My favorite recent Borowitz:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/Mounrning.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-34512\" src=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/Mounrning.jpg\" alt=\"Mounrning\" width=\"507\" height=\"549\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/Mounrning.jpg 507w, https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/Mounrning-277x300.jpg 277w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 507px) 100vw, 507px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><strong>Favorite quote from SOHN:\u00a0<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Policymakers have no endgame. Markets do.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/HarryNewton.jpg\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-21218\" src=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/HarryNewton.jpg\" alt=\"HarryNewton\" width=\"200\" height=\"199\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/HarryNewton.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.technologyinvestor.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/07\/HarryNewton-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/span><\/a><\/strong><\/span><br \/>\nHarry Newton, whose one day with out exercise(yesterday) really took its toll. I felt exhausted and as though someone had stuffed glue into my joints. Today, I&#8217;ll bike and play tennis aggressively. 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