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Time to be out? If forecasts become reality, we’re in BIG trouble

The weekend’s best news. Granddaughter Sophie visited.

The worst news. Reader chims in with bleak market forecast

From reader Jerry Kline:

What people like Joel Ross do not get is that people don’t want to invest because the president is crazy and a liar. No one trusts him. Who knows if he even spoke to Chinese leaders? Trump is a stupid moron and the evangelicals and those in rural areas who continue to support him are complete morons. Folks like Ross they crunch PE ratios and book values and unemployment figures and GNP numbers – it means nothing. I don’t care. Most investors don’t care. All that matters is that the president is insane, Congress is horrible and who wants to invest in a country with leadership this bad.  Not I.

Replied my friend Ed:

The righties were saying the same things about Obama and staying out of stocks all through the bull market.

Who the president is doesn’t really affect stocks that much.

Let’s look at the charts. First Nasdaq, heavy with tech stocks

Then the S&P 500 over the same period.

There are two bubbles — 2000 and 2008 — and relatively quick recoveries.

What was different? The recoveries? One lead to the 2008 prime mortgage crisis. The second lead to nine years of glorious stock gains, now ending.

Here’s the last six months. First Nasdaq:

Then the S&P 500:

Volatility this year. Big-time volatility

Unless you’ve been living in an Igloo without the Internet, 2018 was painful.

Master trader Paul Tudor Jones got on CNBC to predict” more volatility, with perhaps stocks dropping 15%.”

The Economist just published its annual:

The first two predictions were:

  1. The economic wind is changing. By mid-year America will break its record for its longest uninterrupted expansion. By the end of the year (2019), it could be heading in to recession.
  2. The markets converge. But which way? Will America’s stockmarkets fall back, or the rest of the world rise. The smart bet is on the latter. America’s bosses, however, should enjoy life while they can: the good times for USA Inc. won’t last.

Elsewhere in the issue

Stock prices (a favourite barometer of Mr. Trump’s) will sag and the economy will begin to weaken during 2019. That is because the fiscal boost from the tax cut will start to fade even an higher tariffs and higher interest rates both slow growth.

The New York Times chimes in this morning

Wall St. Faces Stomach-Churning Swings as Economic Uncertainty Grows

When a trade war broke out between the world’s two largest economies in June, investors barely blinked. After the Federal Reserve raised interest rates – often a reason for investors to sell stocks – the markets continued to climb. As some of the world’s largest economies began to slow down, American markets largely shrugged it off.

Not anymore.

Last week, elements of all of those combined to drive the S&P 500-stock index down by 4.6 percent, its worst weekly drop since March and one marked by stomach-churning price swings. Stocks are now down 1.5 percent this year.

More volatility could be in store, as investors assess the allegations by prosecutors that President Trump sought to secretly do business in Russia and directed illegal payments to ward off a potential sex scandal during his 2016 campaign for the White House.

The arrest of a prominent Chinese technology executive, meanwhile, has added new strains to the relationship between Washington and Beijing, which face a March deadline to reach a trade deal. On Sunday, China summoned the American ambassador in Beijing to protest the arrest, while Robert Lighthizer, who is leading the talks with China, said he considered March 1 to be a “a hard deadline” for the trade negotiations.

“Every eye is going to be focused on every piece of commentary on this trade deal,” said Rick Rieder, chief investment officer of global fixed income at BlackRock, which manages more than $6 trillion in assets. “Because the impact on growth is so significant.”

While the large market swings on trade-related news underscore some investors’ view that a resolution to the impasse between the United States and China will be crucial to the survival of the economic expansion, there are other political and economic risks as well. They range from the ongoing fallout from the special counsel’s investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, to the relentless staff churn in the Trump administration, to efforts to negotiate Britain’s withdrawal from the European Union, to social unrest in France.

“The fact is that politics is driving the economy to an extent that is very atypical,” said Julian Emanuel, chief equity and derivatives strategist at BTIG, an institutional brokerage firm. “We would say probably to the greatest extent that we’ve seen in our investing lifetime.”

Last week, markets whipsawed wildly on headlines related to the trade war. On Monday, stocks jumped 1.1 percent on word that President Trump and President Xi Jinping of China had agreed to the 90-day halt on any new tariffs to provide space to negotiate key trade issues.

The next day, the S&P dove 3.2 percent, as the president, calling himself “a Tariff Man” in a Twitter message, seemed to reignite the standoff.

Markets were closed on Wednesday to mark the death of former President George H.W. Bush, but as soon as trading resumed on Thursday, stocks dropped as much as 2.9 percent after news that Meng Wanzhou, the chief financial officer of the Chinese electronics giant Huawei and the elder daughter of its founder, had been detained in Canada at the request of the United States. Then, late in the day, the markets recovered most of those losses on hopes that the Federal Reserve could slow its plan to raise interest rates next year. But they still ended the day lower.

The trade war has already taken a toll on large chunks of the global economy. China, the world’s second largest economy, is growing at its slowest rate in nearly a decade. The export-driven economies of Japan and Germany – the third and fourth biggest economies in the world, respectively – both contracted in the third quarter.

The United States has so far been an outlier. Thanks in part to a burst of deficit-fueled stimulus, a large chunk from the tax cut, the American economy this year is on track to grow at its fastest pace since 2005. The national unemployment rate is 3.7 percent, a near 50-year low. Corporate profits and wages are growing at their fastest pace in years.

For much of 2018, results like that helped Wall Street stand out even as major stock benchmarks around the globe tumbled. Chinese stocks are down more than 20 percent, and shares in Germany are down 16.5 percent. In Japan, stocks are down about 5 percent, and in Britain they’re down more than 10 percent.

But even in the United States, there are emerging pockets of weakness, particularly in parts of the economy that are sensitive to rising borrowing costs. Pending home sales have declined for eight straight months, as interest rates on 30-year fixed mortgages have climbed. Monthly auto sales have plateaued, prompting job cuts at General Motors and Ford.

The stock market has mirrored those concerns since the summer. Shares of carmakers and auto-parts manufacturers are down more than 25 percent this year. Shares of homebuilders have slumped nearly 30 percent.

And investors are growing more concerned about the outlook for corporate profits next year, despite third-quarter results that showed that profits at S&P 500 companies rose at the fastest pace since 2010. Instead of the strong results, investors zeroed in on commentary from executives about whether next year might mark the beginning of the end for the second-longest business cycle expansion on record.

“We’re very mindful once again where we’re at in the cycle, Gregory Carmichael, chief executive of the Cincinnati-based lender Fifth Third said at a conference last week. “We’re well-positioned to deal with the downturn in the economy, and we’ll be very cautious.”

That very caution from corporate America could itself have an impact on the economy – should lenders pull back financing, or large businesses slow their growth plans.

“We’re very mindful once again where we’re at in the cycle, Gregory Carmichael, chief executive of the Cincinnati-based lender Fifth Third said at a conference last week. “We’re well-positioned to deal with the downturn in the economy, and we’ll be very cautious.”

That very caution from corporate America could itself have an impact on the economy – should lenders pull back financing, or large businesses slow their growth plans.

There are other risks to the economy, too, and high on many investors’ lists of these is the Federal Reserve. The central bank has been raising interest rates and pulling back on other financial crisis-era stimulus that helped drive a global investment boom over the past decade. These higher rates pinch stock investors by making government debt a more appealing alternative, particularly in uncertain times, and also mean companies that binged on low-cost loans will have to spend more to cover their obligations.

Many analysts date the start of October’s brutal sell-off for stocks – they dropped 6.9 percent – on comments from the Fed’s chairman, Jerome H. Powell, in early October that seemed to indicate that the Fed planned to raise rates more aggressively than the market had expected. In late November, though, Mr. Powell sent stocks surging when he said the Fed’s benchmark interest rate was “just below” the neutral level. The markets took those remarks as a sign that the central bank might not be as aggressive in raising rates as they initially thought.

The market tumult, coupled with the increasingly uncertain path for the global economy, is part of the reason Mr. Rieder, of BlackRock, said he believed that the Fed might decide not to lift interest rates at its next meeting on Dec. 18-19.

“The Fed should slow down and now take a step back and look at what has happened,” he said.

Your pain and my pain

I don’t like the recent pain. I can’t predict if there’ll be more of it — though I can do three things:

+ Not be in stocks that look like a disaster in search of a happening — GE, FB, GM, Apple, bitcoin, cannabis, housing, commodities (e.g. gold).

+ Put in ultra-low limit-buy orders on favorite stocks == like $1,500 on Amazon.

+ Dump individual stocks when they hit my 15% stock loss.

My favorite financial adviser

Meantime, my favorite financial adviser of 30+ years, Todd Kingsley, likes bonds as rates are dropping and bond prices rising. He also sent me this:

Here’s some history that says stay the course. Here are the  20-year annualized returns of the S&P 500 from January 1, 1997 to December 31, 2017:

 +7.20% Fully invested the entire time
 +3.53% Missing the 10 best days
 +1.15% Missing the 20 best days
 -0.91% Missing the 30 best days

Examining how often equity markets have generated positive returns over the last 90 years is equally fascinating. S&P 500 Index calendar-year period returns from 1927 to 2017 reflect the following :

 Stocks have been positive 74% of the time during 1-year holding periods
 Stocks have been positive 95% of the time during 10-year holding periods
 Stocks have been positive 100% of the time during 20-year holding periods

Don’t do stupid. 

HarryNewton
Harry Newton, who played with bank’s money, thought he was a genius and forget to take more off the table. No one ever went broke selling too early. Next time. Meantime, tennis today at 3 PM.

 

  • Scooter

    Harry, You need to ask what the S&P returns would be if you were out of the market on the 10, 20 and 30 worse days.

  • AR

    You too Jerry! Picking on the infirm is classless at best.

  • AR

    One slow clap for Joel.

  • jerry kline

    Harry, you and your friend “Ed” need to read the below article about Trump’s impact on the market from Bloomberg News. It supports what I posted yesterday about Americans not wanting to invest in a market when Trump is in charge. For Ed to compare this is when Obama was president is simply just ignorant. Whether you liked Obama or not – and I never voted for him and didn’t really like him – he clearly was not mentally impaired like Trump. Folks, there’s something wrong with the president. Even the normally staid Bloomberg News agrees. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-owns-stock-market-165508971.html

  • gerryb

    here is a less pessimistic market view this morning: One Reason the Market Rout Will End Soon
    BRETT EVERSOLE
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    The best time to buy is when average investors (the “dumb money”) are panicked.

    Unseasoned investors tend to give up at the worst possible time… the exact time more seasoned investors (the “smart money”) begin putting new money to work.

    This is exactly what we’re seeing right now in U.S. stocks. The dumb money is panicking, and the smart money is as bullish as it’s been in years.

    Last month, the S&P 500 fell to its lowest level in more than six months. It’s no wonder many folks are worried. But those new lows also led to an important change in investor sentiment… one that says the fall in stocks is likely near its end.

    Let me explain…

    Following the market trend is the safest way to make money in the markets. But understanding sentiment can give us insights into major turning points.

    Nobody does a better job tracking market sentiment than our good friend Jason Goepfert of SentimenTrader.

    Jason tracks hundreds of sentiment measures, including many of his own proprietary indicators. And we’re interested in one of his exclusive indicators today – specifically, the spread between smart and dumb money confidence.

    In short, the smart money includes seasoned investors who do a good job timing the market. The dumb money includes fickle investors who sell when times get tough, near the bottom.

    To make these categories more useful, Jason creates a ratio of “smart money confidence” divided by “dumb money confidence.” This highlights extremely positive and negative opportunities in the stock market.

    When the spread is high, it means the smart money is bullish and the dumb money is bearish… which is exactly what we expect to see at a turning point for stocks.

    Not surprisingly, sentiment levels similar to today’s have marked a bottom in stocks over the past few years. Take a look…

    chart: each sentiment triggered a market bottom in the last 5 years

    The circles show times when Jason’s spread was near today’s level. You can clearly see that these were fantastic times to buy stocks.

    In total, we’ve seen Jason’s spread come near today’s level five other times in the past five years. On average, those instances led to roughly 10% gains over the next two months. And all five opportunities led to profits.

    In short, we should expect a solid short-term rally when the smart money is buying and the dumb money is selling… And that’s the exact situation we have today.

    It’s easier said than done. And I understand that it’s scary out there. Stocks have continued to fall in recent weeks. But remember that this can’t last forever.

    We’re seeing market sentiment unlike anything that’s happened in the past six months. And this spread between the smart and dumb money means we’re likely near the bottom.

    History says we shouldn’t be scared. This is actually a fantastic time to put money to work in the stock market.

    Good investing,

    Brett Eversole